By: Search Advanced search…Specifically in regards to CTE? We've gone from it can't work to it can't work as advertised. Was great to hear his stories. I realized. 1434. instead of you nose fitting up into the bridge of the frame - by turning. Thankfully, Hal sent a private email. I hope it does not relate to fraction aiming because I don't feel comfortable with that. not so good, sorry. JoeyInCali Maker of Joey Bautista Cues. I try to use the aim & pivot method which goes like aim with the cue stick somewhere aside of the cue ball center to the contact point or the edge of the object ball and then pivot (only with the back hand) to the middle of the cue ball. I have shown Hal Houle's quarters system to APA 3s and 4s and watched them start making shots way above their skill level. Hal understood what they were doing in order to connect with the angles that lead to pockets even if they had no clue. pj chgo . Or at least completely new to wanting to be a damn good player. There are many Great's with completely different strokes and "aiming" methods. Hale played high school basketball at Jordan High School in Sandy, Utah from 1960 to 1962 and won a state championship. good evening America. There is a link for an interview with Jimmy and Rick Owens, his relative, just before he passed. Search titles only. . To Hal Houle for seeking me out in Denver and introducing me to aiming systems. He was always experimenting with aiming systems and knowledge he acquired over the years from. Aiming ConversationThanks to another member for sending a PM to me with this system he found on the internet called "Splitting The Difference". Search titles only. May 1, 2023 #254 Dan White said: I think CTE discussion is more interesting that what color chalk do you use or which cue maker screwed somebody over this week, lol. It was posted here about 6. you have nothing to lose. Unfortunately, it might be expensive to call him from your house in Russia. you have nothing to lose. The first time started 26 years ago with Hal Houle and then those who followed. Obviously CTE was one of them and Shiskabob was another. So, since I'm in an endless training period, I had to have one. ) For this column I've also spoken to BCA instructor Tom Simpson, who graciously put me in contact with Houle. It was posted here about 6. Both are deadly ways to pocket balls, contrary to what has been claimed by a small. Just for you, here is my answers to your queries. First he told me to forget everything I knew about shooting pool. i usually use this aim point i have three pattern like picture below in aiming OB to pocket but sometimes i nearly make a shot sometimes undercut/overcut a. Here is a description of an early version of CTE taught by Hal Houle: For a “thick hit” (a small cut angle, less than about 15°) to the left: Align the cue 1 tip to the right of the CB center through the right edge of the OB. Adored wife of the late Harold "Hal" Houle. . I hope it does not relate to fraction aiming because I don't feel comfortable with that. This is a no english system but with back hand english there is very little correction. Landon Shuffett vs Earl Strickland in the Diamond 10-Ball 10 Foo…The Hal Houle Point and Pivot system is a billiard aiming system that uses the geometry, layout, and design of a pool table, as well as some common assumptions. Hal is 83 and has forgotten more about pool than I will ever know. I commented that, from my recollection, Hal Houle was a decent guy and had always been forthcoming in our prior discussions. Aiming ConversationI will be at Q-masters on the final Saturday of the US Open. I am not writing for you. Army and was stationed in Germany during the Korean Conflict. NO ADJUSTMENT IS NECESSARY unless you have situations like sticky/dirty balls or highly polished balls. Basically, the claim is there are only three different aims for all cut shots: a “15° cut,” a “30° cut,” and a “45° cut. If the dimensions are other than 2x1, logically, then CTE will no longer work. SHISHKABOB is similar to CTE in that there are 3 spots to aim at like CTE. For the newer amongst you who have been reading about Hal Houle and his systems, here is a description that is I believe in his own words. Some people do it automatically while others spend hours and many aiming systems trying to find it. My name is Hal Houle. Sep 18, 2021 #53Stevie Moore - ProOne - derived from Hal Houle's systems as taught by Stan Shuffett Darren Appleton - Something similar to the S. . When these methods are used the feel in aiming is reduced to almost zero. There is an aiming system called "CTE" (center to edge) originally conceived by Hal Houle. Instruction & Ask the pros. . . It is a Small World After all. Hal Houle learned that through CTE a player can quickly tap into the purity of aiming. From the very first ball i. By: Search Advanced search…We all need to practice our aiming as much as possible - that's how we get good at it. Hugo Houle (born 1990-09-27 in Sainte-Perpétue) is a professional road racing cyclist from Canada, currently riding for Israel - Premier Tech. Much to what I assume will be the chagrin of the vocal CTE guys, Hal Houle himself said this in his infamous original 3-angle document. 5 + 2. hal houle. He was born on November 4, 1931, in Darby, Pennsylvania. I haven't seen any testimonials lately and I got to wondering how Stan's facebook page (aka the impenetrable fortress of solitude) was doing. Just very different ways of seeing the two balls,. Hal, what he created, and those who followed will live forever. I was very lucky yesterday to spend a day visiting Hal Houle. So yesterday, I watched the first several videos of Stan Shuffett's CTE Pro-1 series. For those who think he's guilty of false advertising and claims, you're. A. I will use every comment by you that fits that goal and there are many. By: Search Advanced search…Some of the personalities go back 15 years or more where we had the same disagreements about Hal Houle's "3 angles" fractional system on RSB. Hal Houle/Family I think Hal is and was a great teacher- I have only learned over the phone- his cte stuff. By: Search Advanced search…I really was hesitant to bring this up and face the wrath of khan if this has already been clearly explained but I can't find it so can someone please point. As far as systems go, its as good as any, and an excellent place to start. I hoped that he would chime in and help explain away the apparent dilemma. Hal Houle's Aiming Cyrus Jackson 6 videos 165 views Last updated on Jan 28, 2022 Play all Shuffle 1 2:02 1 Position, 10 Shots Sean Higgins • 5. it's magic. He must have been up in his 80's; not sure. The inventor of CTE was Hal Houle. There are a lot of 'instructors' selling players on various ideas they claim are magic bullets. Adored wife of the late Harold "Hal" Houle. Oh wait, I forgot. And in fact I do credit Hal Houle and Stan and everyone working on objective aiming for keeping me interested in playing. However Hal Houle is AWESOME and so is Ron Vitello. North, and all the ships at sea. Search titles only. Stan Shuffett entered the picture a week ago or so and invited to teach me his CTE/Pro One Aiming System. It's the method, not the final position. . 23 years ago Hal Houle threw out a claim and teaser on an early internet group called. . Barbara was born in Waterbury and was the. By: Search Advanced search…So perhaps if it bugs you then skipping the threads would be the best thing to do. The method of backhand English wouldn't have changed to "not backhand English. Hal Houle, the person I will call the father of all this, had many many many variations and systems. The best person to ask is Hal himself. It's just a fact of life that no matter what you do there are people who find issue with it. ”. Cherished mother of. On the first occasion I spoke to him for a while, and then I played on the adjacent table while he schooled a couple people for several hours. M is aiming by the numbers. Still doing it. Hal is no longer with us, but fortunately, he showed. If you want to learn more about these and other -shot aiming systems, seecut the . I think asking someone about contact points would be like asking them the answer to x + y = 4. I've met Hal a few times. Hugo Houle: Born 27 September 1990 (age 33) Sainte-Perpétue, Canada: Height: 1. By: Search Advanced search…Search titles only. There's only the center of the OB, the 1/4 or 3/4, and the edge. by Billiards Forum Webmaster | May 1, 2011 | Aiming and Execution Tutorials for Billiards | 0 comments. pj chgo . There Left edge,left quarter,center. But how to do that when we're at home or work doing less important things? Just fire up Virtual Pool 3 on your desktop, aim any shot, then turn the. If anyone would like to see the Contact and Pivot aiming or any of the Hal Houle systems that I know,(small ball, 3 lines, points of light, stick aiming, etc. After all, his wife Sonny says her husband spent the better part of a decade in the garage working on diagrams and other pool-related drawings. I personally used it for several years before Hal taught me a version of CTE. Anyone that wants to give this an honest try, please do so and report back to this post. you aim the left quarter, center and right quarter of the CB (the "3. gentlemen - upside down glasses are the NUTS. go! the ones i seen confused me, im making big leaps in my pool game this yr, so why not take it further if i can and actually learn something lolSearch titles only. This is also the explanation why balls can "bend" or find. In another pool forum they have discussed for at least thirty pages of threads, Hal Houle's aiming system. left side of shaft to right left and right side of the shaft to go right. the method fits the definition. The pro's answer would be 4 + 0 = 4. "Your" system exists because of the efforts of Hal Houle to bring the concept of ball to ball objective aiming systems into mainstream pool instruction. . If you and I were on a table for me to show you, you'd easily agree. . IT WAS ILLOGICAL AND STILL IS TO MANY As a young man Hal Houle traveled around the country with Greenleaf as they made their way through one pool room after another with Hal doing his best to keep Greenleaf off the booze until they at least. Hal Houle has many systems, so you start from a false premise. . (dont worry im not bragging, i still miss cuts like its no ones buisness) The reason for this is early on, someone told me if the shot is straight in. Search titles only. I've watched CTE "evolve" since Hal Houle first claimed his "3-angle" system (the parent of CTE) worked without any "adjustments" (back in the 90s). . Conversely I have shown aiming systems to some good players and had them give me a confused look and decide that they didn't want to bother with it EVEN IF they agreed that it might help them. If the dimensions are other than 2x1, logically, then CTE will no longer work. . " Meeting Hal made me addicted to information. He cues on the edge of the cue ball and then on the last stroke moves to. First he told me to forget everything I knew about shooting pool. How does Hal Houle’s three-angle system work? Hal Houles’ 3-angle system is a type of fractional-ball aiming system. No, it's because their only target is and has been CTE, Hal Houle, and now Stan which started 18 years ago. Instruction & Ask the pros. Joey: You know, Hal Houle's center to edge aiming system? Efren: Oh, my english. Billiards (RSB) describing how only 3 lines were required to make nearly all cut shots on a 2:1 pool table with angles from 0 to about 90 degrees. That's one reason I can't stand the really shitty comments denigrating them and their students. In another pool forum they have discussed for at least thirty pages of threads, Hal Houle's aiming system. My loss for sure. Whenever someone asks me how long I’ve been playing, I always say, "Since I met Hal. Obviously CTE was one of them and Shiskabob was another. That's going to change. The blue line is the initial line up method that you would manually have come to with just eying the shot. The black lines represent the Center-to-Edge aim and the resultant undercutting that would result. Guess the year. I am proficient at ghost ball and contact points, I just was looking into a system to double check my aim if I am uncertain. These guys want to act like it's supposed to be some magical event that Stan claims makes the ball. . Both are deadly ways to pocket balls, contrary to what has been claimed by a small group for 25 years on multiple pool forums but have found a home on this forum since 2003. Think About It. . I hear Stan Shuffet is coming out with a free video on U Tube to explain "center to edge" aiming. Also, now in effect, all. and let's go to press. . Stan has spent the last 15 years learning those secrets and has explained them. . We spent the morning working on some stroke, stance and footwork tweaks along with Stan sharing a few of his favorite drills. Hal and I had only a phone relationship, never having met him in person. Share your videos with friends, family, and the worldHal Houle would have been so very proud, and I myself am proud for you and Hal. "Hal" Harold G. Why are you so obsessed with me, PJ? Hal was the only pool player in his family tree and the community here on AZB probably knows more about his pool life, adventures and accomplishments than they do, so Sunny asked if I would ask the members here to post their stories about Hal so they can be read at his funeral. Mr. Hal Houle definitely made life easier for the aiming process of pocketing balls. . . Aiming ConversationThe time you spent with me practicing in your booth at the tournament was impressionable for me. S. Connie and I are beyond pleased! I left it all on the table: 38. Hal Hale was an American basketball player and coach. that includes reyes, souquet, archer, ortman, bustamante, and on and on. If the dimensions are other than 2x1, logically, then CTE will no longer work. The step by step process will be revealed. Sport. i teach professional aiming systems. instructors do not have a clue about aiming systems. I ran across a YT video of a snooker coach having his student wear this and practicing. Just sayin'. Hal Houle invented it about 7 or 8 DECADES ago and called it Shiskebob. Stan Shuffett refined it and it is called "CTE Pro One". . The controversy has always been about the misleading claims of its unique "exactness". Watching the new "Truth Series" videos from Stan I get what is going on with the different lines. cookie man AzB Silver Member. If anyone knows what it is supposed to be, then I. Im guessing this is based on possible points for the QB and object ball. ) I will be more than happy. It's great that Stan has been able to get CTE even farther. Nov 12, 2019 - Answers to frequently-asked questions about Hal Houle's 3-angle aiming system. not so good, sorry. Hal Houle knew Greenleaf and probably Fez. If the graph below actually represents the variety of. " Hal's greatest joy was. If you look at most shots they can be grouped into one of these three angles in a general sense. I was a pretty good friend to Hal for over 20 years. HOULEHarold G. If you want to learn more about these and other -shot aiming systems, seecut the . Yes, there are AIM points, but they are clearly visible on the OB and not imaginary. He has a beautiful 4 1/2 x 9 Diamond table and light. i have a comment which will go something like this---many years ago there was a man named hal houle--houle as in pool he used to say! he posted on rsb to the dismay of most- an aiming system - boasting of 6 angles . All of Hal's systems used the 3 line fractions. The methods that Hal Houle teaches are the most exact and precise ways to aim that I have ever seen. Harold G. I think Hal's latest way of describing it, the "3-point" version where. Pro's try to explain how they "Aim". When you slip stroke, you are essentially stopping the cue during the back stroke, and quickly sliding your hand back further on the cue, grabbing the cue. Hal is 83 and has forgotten more about pool than I will ever know. When I first started on the various forums nearly. Basically, the claim is there are only three different aims for all cut shots: a “15° cut,” a “30° cut,” and a “45° cut. Now according what Hal Houle taught me and my friends is There is an Edges to use for cut shot and cut. I've kept the thread alive as there is a discussion below on the book) Amazon published my book on Ralph Greenleaf,. There is no way in this universe that Hal Houle, Stan Shuffett and the countless other instructors teaching objective aiming methods created non-working purely psychological mind tricks just to mess with your sense of order. They could care less about 90/90 or the SEE System. Began instructing pool in 1945. I came into this multi-decade argument a few months ago after having learned basic CTE from Hal years ago. If anyone would like to see the Contact and Pivot aiming or any of the Hal Houle systems that I know,(small ball, 3 lines, points of light, stick aiming, etc. By: Search Advanced search…Secret Aiming Systems ™ Coach (THE designated successor to Hal Houle, inventor of many of the Aiming Systems) Professor: Billiard University; Certified PAT ™ Examiner (the Playing Ability Test) Founder: Elephant Balls, Ltd. This is just what I've heard. These techniques are all referred to as “offset and pivot” systems. sacman AzB Silver Member. Search titles only. . Jan 20, 2013 #63 Patrick Johnson said:Some (mostly undercooked) food for thought about aiming system benefits for everybody. You are referring to Hal Houles aiming system. Honestly no matter what "system" you use if you do not have a consistent stroke, a straight stroke, and good fundamentals, the want to get better, and. Hal Houle and I talked many times over the past few years and I regret not having the urge to learn more about CTE from him. i do not charge you for anything, it is simple enough that i can teach you over the phone. In TP A. A. Search titles only. I will use every comment by you that fits that goal and there are many. you aim the left quarter, center and right quarter of the CB (the "3. ” In TP A. It is looked upon as extrordinary, but it is a duplicate of the Sailor's system only much less detailed and much less comprehensive. You know this is false. . According to both the inventor of CTE (Hal Houle) and Stan himself, Stan Shuffet’s CTE Pro One only works because the table has 2x1 dimensions. A lot of my terminology might be a little outdated but once you lock in your visuals, what is the precise order of. Hal called it his three angle document. I was very lucky yesterday to spend a day visiting Hal Houle. ”. Notable people with the surname include: David Houle (biologist), evolutionary biologist David Houle (futurist) (born 1948), futurist and author Dave Houle,. Joey: You know, Hal Houle's center to edge aiming system? Efren: Oh, my english. . 12,478. The aiming forum was created to a large part for PJ. and Santos. C. On the first occasion I spoke to him for a while, and then I played on the adjacent table while he schooled a couple people for several hours. Yeah, I know - I know, if Hal did something it MUST be bogus and witchcraft. In addition to Hal Houle being attacked and his work ridiculed by the anti-CTE saviors for the rest of mankind, the most vilified person in the history of pool is the person so intrigued by Hal's thinking and creations that he wanted to finally solve the riddle, and has, is Stan Shuffett. . . Im guessing this is based on possible points for the QB and object ball. Ron Vitello also teaches one that is dubbed 90/90 which is also incredibly precise and accurate. The questions is how many have even CONSIDERED. Daughter of the late Anton and Elizabeth Heinsen. - Ruiary Byrne, CTE discussion group on FB. Cherished mother of David Morse, Kathleen (Mike) Morse, the late Sam Morse, the late Dean Morse, and the late Glen Morse. I have been using it for a few years with very good results. Tom simpson will be glad to teach it to you for a fee. 5 = 4. Well beyond the life of the. Hal Houle, the person I will call the father of all this, had many many many variations and systems. . If there were 10. JoeyInCali Maker of. Thankfully, Hal sent a private email inviting me His credentials are very impressive, with Pro player being one of his accomplishments. If you would like a copy, email me at The answers I received, from Houle followers, defied the laws of geometry and, as such, were absurd. He welcomes inquiries and does not charge for his advice. . . Also let me know if you disagree with any of the existing. But he said he understood the concept, so I gave him the okay. I was very lucky yesterday to spend a day visiting Hal Houle. Most of my aiming is based on several of the things he taught me. By: Search Advanced search…Fellow CTE Enthusiasts, If I could get an answer to this one hurdle in my CTE learning journey I would be thrilled. Hal Houle was the first that I heard of that was teaching it, and I believe it was his system. Just that simple!! thanks for the post friend!! mark . Hal teaches several systems. He retired from Ottawa Hills Memorial Park after over 20 years as an "Underground Condominium Salesman. So the non-users consider that false advertisement. There is a link for an interview with Jimmy and Rick Owens, his relative, just before he passed. Place the bridge hand down with the cue along this line. I have played around with CTE for ~ 2 years. S. First he told me to forget. "Hal" Houle, age 82, passed away on May 29, 2014. Silver Member. Obviously CTE was one of them and Shiskabob was another. By: Search Advanced search…Search titles only. This includes; caroms, single rail banks, double rail banks, 1, 2, 3, and 4 rail banks, and double kiss banks. "Hal" Houle, age 82, passed away on May 29, 2014. View more. He was born on November 4, 1931 in Darby, Pennsylvania. JOEY AGUZIN Feb 17, 2003, 1:13:44 PM to Well, I haven't confirmed this rumor but have it on good authority that a well know and RESPECTED Master BCA instructor will be. instructors do not have a clue about aiming systems. By: Search Advanced search…Hal Houle developed over 20 aiming systems that had nothing to do with contact points or fractions. JB Cases Silver Member. Even then, the adjustment is minimal. Once he showed me which bulb and where on the object ball, it magically went in the hole. Nov 12, 2019 - Answers to frequently-asked questions about Hal Houle's 3-angle aiming system. Hal Houle developed over 20 aiming systems that had nothing to do with contact points or fractions. Was great to hear his stories. It's not, every combination of perception, left or right cut, sweep or pivot direction, etc,,,, will result in the same. . A CTE/PRO ONE video is coming! The video will present the exact visual nature of CTE. I had a lesson fron Stan Shuffet and have had a phone conversation Hal Houle. JoeyA, Always glad to share my knowledge with those who sincerely want to learn the game. Silver Member. Houle, speaking of CTE's primary 3 aiming points (15, 30, 45 deg, aka 1/4b fractions): "Your only requirement is to recognize whether your shot is a 15, 30, or 45° angle. go! the ones i seen confused me, im making big leaps in my pool game this yr, so why not take it further if i can and actually learn something lolI thought I'd throw out a little check I use to very accurately find A or C on the OB, especially the thin ones. In fact, a "visual" as you describe (or as Hal described) in pool is not. There were so many that were disrespectful and that is one if the things I despise about AZB. Hal Houle had ways of explaining and doing it and we definitely know where you're coming from when his name is mentioned. . . I decided last winter to turn myself into an Open caliber. . I don't understand half of Spidey's post but I compeletly understand what he means. Hal was a veteran of the U. He has never stopped after 25 years. Glad you had a chance to see a real pool room. Hal Houle told this story to me a good number of years ago and he told it to everyone he talked to on the phone starting back in the 1990's. you read his posts and you know he doesn't have a clear understanding about these pivot systems and he keeps putting his foot in his mouth. Would anyone who was taught by Hal,or have any stories they would like to share about the man Hal Houle, and give us. He is a rather famous pool instructor who teaches pool to professional pool players and amateurs alike. i teach professional aiming systems. Would you, Mike Howerton, head honcho of AZ Billiards and of sound body and mind (most of the time). Your mind’s eye can easily perceive each of the 500 shots referenced above as ‘one’. Anybody know when that will be?I believe it's correct to say you don't have to "consciously" know where the pocket is, but unconsciously you do. Silver Member. Condolences to his wife and family. Article posted in: Billiards Forum -> Cue Sports -> Pool Playing Tips -> Aiming and Execution Tutorials. . Hal said he could probably teach me his aiming system in 15 minutes. My schedule for lessons is resuming as usual and all courses will reflect the newly redefined CTE/PRO ONE Aiming System. Any system based on a limited number of lines of aim will obviously not cover a wide range of shotsHi guys. Army and was stationed in Germany during the Korean Conflict. . . . Silver Member. poolguppy AzB Silver Member. Ask The InstructorI'm pretty sure he was from the Albuquerque neck of the woods. It was very obvious to me how Jimmy was making balls. . . Aiming ConversationYou mean the same Hal Houle who said there are only three cut angles in pool because “pocket slop”, right? lol Being a pool professional doesn’t mean you know much - probably the opposite, in fact. Hal Houle . ” Hal Houle once said that the top 200 players in the world used his aiming system. Recognizing. There is nothing on Earth Stan or Hal Houle could have done without getting blasted for one thing or another. . ". I'll never be a good player, but I try all the time to improve. B. Regardless of whether you like, love or hate the use of the tip for that purpose. Align the the cue about 1/2 tip off center from the cue ball. By: Search Advanced search…Throw 15 balls out on the table and start wherever you wish with a one rail or more bank. (since we have nothing but the edge of the object. The common fractional-ball aiming system, sometimes referred to as Hal Houle’s 3-angle system.